• Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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    They have no idea what all these words mean. It’s embarrassing. Their tweets read like an edgy teenager discovering instant messaging

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    Maybe Elon is getting to me, but … what compels assholes like this to say things like this and not do it themselves? I guess they need to keep away from actually doing it so that they can later claim they never were the ones to do it and that their joke statement was taken out of context.

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      It’s much easier to talk mad shit online when you’ve grown accustomed to the idea that there are no consequences for anything you say. They’re perfectly happy to let the consequences of doing fall to someone else.

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      I mean when Trump was shot at, people here had a quite similar sentiment.

      Also all the “violence is not part of american political culture” hurrdurrs of politicians and celebrities afterwards are just completely false. Violence and political violence are an integral part of American culture. I think no other country had as many successful and attempted assassinations of their presidents.

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      The whole country going insane makes me feel like I’M insane, because a rational world view no longer applies.

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      Tbh… When I visited Denver last week from melbourne, sadly I discovered the people there were doing better than here. It seems like a few people here have gotten far more toxic than the US.

      Everyone there was super nice.

      That being said though, the same kind of voter here causing things to be bad for everyone, seem to be the same as US

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      We’re like the only “first world” country that has no healthcare and we have more billionaires then any other country and soon to be one trillionaire, what do you think?

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        more billionaires then any other country

        And a crap load of people living on or under the poverty live working two or three jobs with zero PTO, crippling student debt ratios, sky high childcare costs, no family leave, and on and on. No, you don’t seem well.

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          It’s insane that you have people working multiple part time jobs totaling 40+ hr/week but still don’t have employer-subsidized healthcare because employers don’t have to offer it to employees working under a certain number of hours/week. And there are businesses that deliberately offer only part time jobs for that exact reason.

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            I’m not well versed in this but I was under the assumption that anyone who worked 32 or more hours was eligible for some kind of insurance through their employer, which is why so many people are stuck at 31 hours a week.

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            Capitalism at it’s finest. Working just as intended. Nothing to see here, move along, serfs.

            Oh, look, someone who’s different. Let’s get angry at them instead!

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        This is a country that’s more afraid of not having a gun, than not having a doctor. We are not run by adults.

        This is a nation that says you can get a license to drive a large metal death trap at insane speeds at 16, die in a war at 18, but you have to be 21 to drink the Evil Fermented No-No Juice… and 25 to RENT a large metal death trap at insane speed

        We have no idea what an adult is.

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    My favorite part of the article is where the libertarians called Lincoln a tyrant who was rightly assassinated.

    Very cool and normal.

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      Libertarians denounce Lincoln as a tyrant, then spill a gallon of ink praising Coolidge, Eisenhower, and Reagan for brutalizing Latin America and terrorizing American immigrant communities.

      They don’t give a shit about Freedom and Liberty. They’re just white nationalists. They want to bring the old plantation system back.

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    “The FBI visited my house today for free speech acts they knew were not crimes.”

    Uh, calling for violence is NOT protected under the first amendment, so you can fuck right off with that.

    “It is well understood that the right of free speech is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances. There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or ‘fighting’ words – those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.”

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      In Terminiello v. Chicago (1949), the Supreme Court narrowed the scope of what constitutes fighting words. The Court found that words which produce a clear and present danger are unprotected (and are considering fighting words), but words which invite dispute and even cause unrest are protected (and are not considered fighting words).

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        sure, but this guy is not even being charged with anything. we are talking about a warning.

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          this guy is not even being charged with anything

          He feels threatened, though. That violates his NAP.

          If these were black kids playing across the street rather than armed FBI agents pounding on his door, he likely would have tried to gun them down already.

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      Fuck that. I just want our law to apply equally so he would be in prison, like any of us would for the same crime.

      The latest move of delaying the sentencing to 2 weeks after election is appealing. He announced he is running AFTER DOJ started investigating him and now judge is afraid to sentence it because GOP picked him despite being a convicted felon?

      What’s worst is that if he wins the sentence likely will be a slap in the wrist, because they won’t want him for example using military to avoid jail. If he loses the election, then he will immediately appeal, and likely judge will allow him to remain free during appeal process.

      We have two tier justice system.

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        I think he should be tried for treason. And if convicted suffer the full punishment for that. He is a clear and present threat to democracy. No one should be able to invite an insurrection and have it not be taken as seriously as it was.

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        I disagree.

        There’s probably a better argument that either:

        1. Political assassinations (as a subset of misnamed ‘vigilante justice’) are never good and we shouldn’t reinforce that precedent, or

        2. That person would be a hero to the planet and the future, not just present day America.

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        I mean these assassination attempts barely stick around the news cycle longer than other shootings and my guess is people are tired enough of him not to care. Hate crime incidence spiked when he won in 2016, so also.theres no version of this election that doesn’t lead to violence. May as well excise the cancer entirely.

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              Elvis was Jesus-ified after death and tacky, roadside velvet Elvis art could be purchased and displayed to show your devotion to the King. Love of a musical icon is one thing. But, martyred fascists are not kitsch or cool. Either one will let you know what kind of a home you stepped into. Both would be in bad taste but one is so bad it’s good and the other is so bad, it’s baaaad. And not Michael Jackson bad.

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        It does…without his cult of personality I think the magats fizzle out and slink back into the dark corners of society

        Maybe they find a new Messiah in Elon, but I don’t think he has the lack of intelligence to lie like Trump does.

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      My bet is that they don’t care, since that’s clearly an opinion with no intent. Everyone has already been saying basically that when discussing the assassination attempt. Try adding one of the follow-ups:

      Follow-up posts added: ‘The point of the second amendment is to shoot and kill tyrannous politicians’ and  ‘encouraging politicians to be shot is legal under the first amendment. It’s part of what makes this country great.’

      Those are even closer to the line (maybe even crossing it) than the initial tweet. This guy was still not arrested for any of it. The agents just feel mandated to act on tips or something.

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      Did someone hear something coming from the anonymous abyss? Real name and address and I bet you get your wish.

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      Anyone who kills Donald Trump would be an enemy of the people, just like the other scum that fight to keep him from facing consequences for his crimes.

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    Love the expression of the guy on the left. Probably describes everything you need to know about the encounter.