‘Absolutely Disgusting’: Trump Sparks Fury By Joking He Can Cancel Future Elections If U.S. Gets Into a War
‘Absolutely Disgusting’: Trump Sparks Fury By Joking He Can Cancel Future Elections If U.S. Gets Into a War
We've had elections during a war before and we can do it again. Ukrainian laws don't apply to the US.
Yeah, the law pertaining to not holding elections during martial law in Ukraine was created during another person's presidency as well. He didn't make that. (It stemmed from Russias invasion into Ukraine in 2014, law made in 2015). Zelensky didn't become president until 2019.
He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.
You think he's deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He's testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.
Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It's mandated by the constitution.
Same how the 14th Amendment to the Constitution is basically invalidated as long as some states hold off on challenging his EO undoing it.
He'll do some "Elections will happen, but only in states that are nice to me and I expect to win" EO and will basically take CA and IL out of the results, and their results won't be certified by Congress. Because right now it's a race to rig 2026 to save donor campaign money.
He is a dictator. There will be no more elections. America is an autocracy.
lol cool so he just said the quiet part of the playbook out loud.
For those in the back: he’s gonna get the US in to a Serious Fucking War right before the next election so that he can pretend he’s got justification to call off elections.
Pay no mind to the fact that FDR won his third term at the peak of WW2.
Come to think of it: that’s probably why he wants to do it: he knows he probably can’t win another election (putting aside the illegality of running and serving for a third term), and doesn’t want to think about himself being overshadowed by “some old librul Democrat from the 1940s”. And yes, that is a completely serious guesstimate on orangeboi’s rationale for this.
Legally, it won't matter. He doesn't hold office until the next guy, his term ends in 2029. If there is no replacement, the office is simply vacant, and we already have processes for that.
Legally, it won't matter. If (when) he's ignoring the laws to that level, it doesn't matter what anyone pretends happened with an election. The laws will have no bearing anyway.
Most importantly, the states run the elections.
So he can "cancel" the election, but only red states would listen. Blue states would still hold elections and report results. And with red states not holding elections, it's safe to say any election would lean heavily left.
So republicans would only lose seats, and trump would get zero electoral college votes. Well, most likely every red state would still try to send electors for trump
After midterms we'll be able to see what's gonna happen if that plays out.
But honestly, blue states should be prioritizing building up their own NG the next three years just in case.
It’s cute that you think laws matter to the fascists.
That’s the entire gist of what I’m trying to point out here. You’re stuck on what “legality” means. I’m saying they’re changing the definition.
That’ll be before the midterms, in case anyone wasn’t clear about that.
He truly just cannot help himself... Could be our one saving grace. That and the sheer incompetence.
“Serving” LOL as of Trump is serving anyone but himself. He’s made billions in bribes since taking power. He doesn’t serve Americans, he serves himself to whatever he wants. Mostly golf and killing people.
He isn't joking and you shouldn't pretend he is
Dang... he's still alive. Maybe tomorrow.
From your lips to the ears of God 🙏
Amen
Zelenskyy’s comment about war and instability was NOT BEING THE SIDE THAT STARTED THE WAR.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
anyways, EPSTEIN FILES. WHERE THEY AT?
It's not even that. It's about what the country's structure permits. Ukraine doesn't allow for midwar elections, the us doesn't allow for skipping them.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
It's really not. Lincoln held midterms in the middle of the Civil War. FDR held elections after Pearl Harbor. Ffs, Bush cleaned up the year after 9/11 and rode the pro-war election wave through 2004.
The idea that your elected leadership is immune to recall when you're in a state of war is anathema to democracy. It insulates unpopular leaders and empowers military dictators.
There is no distinction, save that liberals like Zelensky and hate Trump.
It makes a big difference whether the war is in your own country and touches everyone, or if it's waged elsewhere or touches only a small part of your country.
US Civil War didn't have 500 drones flying to various cities across US each day and night. If Ukraine had elections now, there would be queues on the street and those queues would get bombed by the Russia. I don't think this would have been a risk around the time of Pearl Harbour.
What is your suggestion for how the elections in Ukraine could be organized safely and so that the result would be reasonably representative?
Bush was in the middle of his term a year after 9/11, I assume you mean the Republican Party?
So Putin invades Alaska in 2028 to give him an excuse, got it.
Also America has never really been invaded during an election...at least not its homeland...to any significant extent. The civil war is the best example, but that wasn't even a foreign enemy. Now if China say invaded the west coast, and cities like Portland, LA, San Diego, etc are solidly in Chinese hands wiht the Chinese moving across the rockies and the President and Congress come along and and collectively go "We think we should pause elections until things get stable"....I'd have a hard time arguing against that.
AND he fucks children
Rapes
Hey guys I hearn fücking kïbs is cööl nöw :DDDDDDDDD
GOPedo Bear
Oh no, pedo bear is back.
Did you know that doing shit like this is how 4chan brought nazis back? Interesting little fact. Also, Poe's Law.
Tone indicators exist. Use them. Thanks.
Put another way, why would you ever give refuge to those who hate? To help them convince others that there are more of them out there than there actually are?
Ya’ll think the US will ever collectively understand that they can’t keep pretending like these things are jokes or “wouldn’t actually happen”? I swear, Trump could grow a little mustache and people would be saying “oh no, I can’t believe we’re about to fall into fascism!”.
No. Literally warned people and yelled at them that we would be inviting kidnappings (ICE), abortion rights, and gay rights, civil rights… damn there is so much that has already has happened. He can do no wrong to his base and the Supreme Court here and congress has pretty much given him free rein. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
I guess if they keep pretending it’s only ever “just getting started” they can pretend as if their inaction was warranted.
They fucking told us. “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”. They don’t care if they go down with the ship as long as brown people do as well
I think cruelty is what they want. Our society is built on cruelty, genocide and disenfranchisement. The progress we made was the fluke. I hope we will learn but I see people all around who are cheering all of this on.
I would say this is impeachable if they already didn't make such a joke out of the punishment.
News flash people, he's not fuckin joking. Arm yourselves while you can.
I thought that's why y'all kept sacrificing children to gun violence, but apparently they were to support, not fight, facism. Or at least to have them hanging there while supposedly American values get trampled.
Look, it's not simple. Armed rebellion is not a good time. If that course is taken it's critical to first understand where the states fall. Since each has it's own military, among other things, no tactical decisions can be made until those lines are drawn, or fragmented accordingly.
It's kinda the equivalent of asking why the Italians aren't doing a revolution because the EU decided to ban Pasta. Like sure they did that, it's not good, but like what happens if Germany doesn't participate and Ireland sides with Italy?
Does a civil war count?
That's exactly what he's hoping for.
He's militarizing cities as we speak. If he keeps amping it up, protests will theoretically follow. MAGA will find some reason to claim these protests "turned violent". Trump declares martial law and cancels elections. Done.
This is a trial balloon
Industrial strength "Joking" being used in this headline.
Trump has no sense of humor nor has he ever told a joke.
He's not joking. What does he have to do to be taken seriously? A hostile takeover of the capital?
Joking?
yea, you know just like how he "joked" about rounding up brown people, or cut most people's medical aid, or destroy the american soft power.
you know, just funny things he would totally never ever do, because that would mean his voters are retarded.
guys guys he's just joshing around. he's not actually gonna use the world's most notoriously influential military power to invade mexico or greenland when the economy fails and he needs to steal a bunch of shit to prop it up. those invasion plans theyre planning are just for funzies trust me bro
That’s what this shitfuck does. He ‘jokes’ about an idea, then repeats it until it sounds normal, then does whatever the fuck he wants and nobody does anything about it.
"by joking" you fucking dumbwits, are you not learning at all? He doesn't care if he can or not, he will bruteforce his way through legislation with his MAGAlitia. They are ALREADY utilizing fear and suppression with their masked terrorists kidnapping people off the streets or posting up next to demonstations. If you are not acting now, tomorrow might already be too late.
So… basically the thing he said he would do before the election?
99% sure he wasn't joking. He was plotting.
As soon as he stops being president all that Epstein shit is going to fall over him, he knows that so he's going to try to use his power to stay in power.
Can he have a stroke or massive heart attack or something already? Fucking hell man. Nature never takes the ones it should.
Then they 25th Amendment him and install JDV as Thiels hand-picked successor. Somehow speedrunning our way into some weird techno-fascist hellacspe faster than we already are.
Or he could've already had one. Allegedly Reagan was declining for years and the people around him successfully hid it until he was out of office.
He lives such an unhealthy lifestyle that it is amazing he has held out this long.
Only the good die young.
I'm convinced putin recommended this.
Not sure. Putin has other means of staying in power, like killing political opponents, disillusion and propaganda. The reason he invaded Ukraine is because he is an irredentist bozo that wants his beloved Soviet Union back, not because he was threatened.
He recommended that Trump do it, they mean.
I'm fucking tired of this fucking dumbass and everyone who enables him by saying he's just joking. Sometimes, people are not joking. It's not just a fucking prank, bro. And even if it was? What kind of professional politician just pulls pranks nonstop?
He's never joking. He's a genuine psychopath, he has no sense of humor. He's just learned to pretend like he has one to fool the normal humans without broken personalities. If he says it, he's serious.
He only presents it like a joke to get people used to the idea. Anyone that reacts with outrage at his statements are immediately mocked and denigrated as dramatic nonsensical leftists. Then when they actually do the thing they claimed would never happen, the tune changes from accusing the left of senseless hysteria to them accusing them of being anti-American, Pro-crime, etc etc.
Every step they take with the federalization of armed forces is to get the populace used to the idea of it happening. And, so far, that has been largely successful. So when they actually mobilize, there will be far less pushback.
Yes he did, and he definitely wants to. Now… where are the Epstein files?
I hate to say it bud, but just like everything else he has ever done, it will be swept under the rug. People will stop worrying about it. He’ll pardon anyone involved if it ever even comes close to coming out.
All this bullshit about, “he said he’d release the Epstein files!!”
That isn’t what I remember.
What I remember is them asking about declassifying this and that, “yes, yeah, absolutely”. When asked about the Epstein files, “yes. Well, maybe not so much that one. I don’t want innocent people caught up in that.”
I’m paraphrasing and doing my best to quote, but every article I read fails to mention that. I can’t even find it when I search for it.
It was clear from before the election that he would keep those covered up.
When he said that, people cared for about ten seconds. When he sent his people to overthrow the government, his base cared for about 10 seconds and then blamed “ainteefuh”.
When he pardoned all of those “ainteefuh”, no one batted an eye. Even people who looked me in the eyes and swore that it mattered. “He’s gonna do it on a case by case basis.” They said. “He won’t just pardon them all, it would send a terrible message.”
One week later, “Well, they were political prisoners. It wasn’t as bad as the news made it look.”
FUCK Donald Trump. He can do anything he wants to do. The rest of us need to just bend over. That is reality now.
I’m sorry.
We’ll see how it goes in 2028. I ain’t got high hopes. I wish I could have high hopes. Reality has shown me that my high hopes are silly.
Sorry to be all doom and gloom. You can tell me all day that the sky is neon pink, but I can see with my own eyes that it’s still blue.
He's not joking.
This guy is just such a dickhead. The type of people that still support this asshole are very much telling on themselves.
Probably watched Archie Bunker and rooted for him.
I think these people are watching The Handmaid's Tale and not understanding that Gilead is supposed to be bad
My parents watched that show. They thought it was really well done. We used to discuss it during the first couple of seasons... I haven't spoken to them since January because they refuse to disavow Trump and/or admit that voting for him was a mistake.
It's like... What the fuck did you think it was about? How do you watch a show like that and completely miss every possible message?
"Joking"
Hmmmm...
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Could this be why his aids looked "pallid" after his meeting with Putin?
It's possible his aides had it in their head that they're the "good guys" and fully bought into the propaganda that Trump was going to save America and then had their whole realities shook when they saw Trump and Putin talking together in perfect English talking about their callous conspiracies to wreck nations and crush people they hate together.
So did they cancel elections when US invaded Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Nah… but Trump just wants to cancel elections. He is a dictator. Since there’s nothing and no one stopping him - there’s no reason why he won’t just do it. It’s what 70 million Americans wants anyway.
Maybe he's planning for the next war to be closer to home. Mexico, Panama and Canada should take this seriously.
We are
If this mf tries for a third term. We civil war.
You have been at war since the January 6th beerhall putsch attempt. It's just that one side didn't realise and didn't even put your new dictator into a luxury prison first before letting him get re-elected. Rookie mistake honestly.
Why wait?
U first
I'm hung over, can we reschedule?
You are clearly not understanding what is going on. America wants what is going on. If he stays in power (he will) half of Americans want him to. No one is gonna stop him. He will never give up as much power as he has, willingly. Americans will not take up arms against him either.
If we got through WWII, with troops scattered around the world, without canceling elections or even disenfranchising the soldiers fighting overseas, he has no excuse. (How did a solider in France, a sailor in the Philippine Sea, or a marine on Leyte Island vote? Mail-in ballots.)
Anyone But Trump, 2028
Also, where are the Epstein files?
If we've learned anything from 2024, it's that this won't fly... Sign needs to say "Looking for Unicorn to run for President, otherwise we'll get trump again"
If there's anything we learned from 2024, it's that we need to all get behind the same person instead of not voting or voting third party instead. The game sucks, but if we don't play it, we lose, and if we don't play it, there's no working towards getting any other systems in place (ranked tier voting or whatever it's called, or any if the other even better systems), and if we son't play it, fascism takes over.
A divided left means the right wins.
inb4 "YoU'rE nOt ThE lEfT" memes - that shit is part of the problem and is allowing fascism to take over, so anyone posting that can fuck off with that unhelpful shit.
Is that why they drew up attack plans for Mexico? Probably some sort of bullshit like the gangs and caravans of immigrants keep coming over the border, so they have to go into Mexico to deal with them before the evil dangerous criminals get to the US border. Then occupy a part of Mexico and call off the elections due to the war. Trump is always talking about how he's like a "wartime" president.
Mexico isn't a NATO country either, so NATO will just let him do it, just like they're doing to Gaza and just like they're doing to Ukraine.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Dictator does dictator things, Americans do nothing. News at 11.
Maybe a petition? Or a Facebook page?
One of the reasons he's so desperate to end the Ukraine War is so he can collect his Nobel Peace Prize, freeing him to start his war with Mexico, and have a draft, essentially enslaving the entire young male demographic so they can't be used against him in a Civil War.
Then he can use the Mexican War as an excuse to suspend elections, even though we've never cancelled an election in our history, not even during the Civil War.
The fact that he lept on Z's remark about no election, illustrated that he's been giving this a lot of thought, wondering what might work as a reasonable excuse. Dems love Zelensky, and he cancelled elections because of the war, so if America is in a war, he can cancel elections, and the Dems will have to accept it. It won't occur to him that there's a difference between fighting a war in a separate country, and fighting a war within your own capital city.
It also won't occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn't mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that's the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It also won’t occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn’t mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It boggles my mind that there are still Americans who cling to legalism as some kind of saviour, even after all the months of proof that it is absolutely no barrier to the fascists doing exactly what they want.
Just because they want to pretend the Constitution doesn't exist doesn't mean we have to accept it.
We don't have to match the MAGAs immorality to beat them, we just have to play Hard Ball, and force them to follow the rules, and the rules are the Constitution. If they refuse to follow the rules, we can't just say "Oh well, we tried," and give up. You FORCE them to adhere to those rules, whether they like it or not. And if they won't cooperate, you keep pushing, and you NEVER stop demanding that they follow the rules.
Make them obey, period. You don't disparage those that are advocating for forcing them to follow the Constitution. That's just weak, and that kind of Democratic thinking is what allowed MAGA to rise, take power, and then take power AGAIN!
We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It's just words on paper if not enforced. And Republicans haven't been keen on enforcing it when it comes to him, not specifically but especially.
Enforcing it is the Democrats' responsibility, but Schmuck Schumer is literally the weakest, most cowardly Democratic leader I've seen in my long lifetime. He is so ineffective, and he has become so wealthy from insider trading, that I am honestly starting to suspect that he is working with the MAGA Nazis, or at least actively unopposing them.
His weakness is a major reason that MAGA was able to rise, get elected, and rise again to get elected AGAIN. He is as reliable to MAGA as any of HitlerPig's trusted henchmen.
If Schmuck Schumer isn't a secret MAGA, he is just the same as one. It's long past time to kick him out.
essentially enslaving the entire young male demographic so they can’t be used against him in a Civil War.
Ever heard of mutiny? Because that is how you get a mutiny.
Fascists manufacture wars to declare martial law and stay in power.
Just like Nazi Germany, Russia, Isreal
So he thinks killing people is a joke.
Desperate measures require desperate times.
Meh, just hold one without him. Get an electoral college quorum and move the new guy in because it's 100% state driven and he can't change the constitution. Like an old time papacy schism, let God sort it out.
he can’t change the constitution
No, but he's sure proven that he can ignore it. And the Supreme Court will ultimately back him up. And they've already ruled that he can't be charged with anything illegal he does while president (the courts won't even punish him for crimes he was convicted of when not POTUS). And even if they don't rule in his favor he's shown he's willing to ignore the courts when they don't rule in his favor.
If the cops and military side with him- and there is a good chance the majority in both groups are MAGAts, he'll just have people participating in the 'illegal/illegitimate' elections arrested.
If he's still alive in 2028 he will not give up power, I guarantee it.
Police maybe. But, from my anecdotal experience in the military, as an infantryman, so not even officer/better educated MOS, the military is surprisingly nuanced. It’s too big of an organization with too many backgrounds to make a statement like that, if you ask me. Granted, I was in during his first presidency, and a lot could have changed, but, you might be surprised the resistance the military would give.
I'm not saying he'd let it happen, but this is one scenario where the constitution is perfectly clear and it's within the states' authority. They could even ignore the SCOTUS if they wanted, though I think even the SCOTUS would struggle to justify stopping an election.
Oh he’s not giving up power willingly.
So who's he going to invade? Mexico or Canada?
Mexico for sure. It’ll be “to stop the cartels”. Calling it right now.
My money is on Canada.
And he's been laying the propaganda and groundwork for months now:
Civil War 2: Election Boogaloo
If he tries to invade Canada, Canada’s gonna party like it’s 1814 and we gonna light up the WH - again.
Mexico, Canada or civil war. Just be as belligerent as possible to everyone and see who takes the bait.
I'll bet in private he's going nuts that no one has so far. "What the hell do I gotta do to these people?!"
Stop assuming he has good intentions. He does not
Oh hey look, it's exactly the thing I was talking about when Trump ran for a second term the first time.
"If Trump wins this election, there won't be any more elections."
That was Musk on Biden of course. Nothing could have been more obviously bullshit. But half of your voters still got taken in by it all.
Oh no! Who could have seen this coming! Oh, everyone? Oh ok. And people voted for this? Idiocracy to the max! You get what you ask for. You want an autocrat dictator getting rich from your backs, you'll get it!
Again? He was saying the same thing his first term
He's moving quicker this term, and he has purged most of the people who might oppose him.
9/10 chance trump tries to cite the Ukrainian Constitution, then putin simultaneously tries to de-legitimize Zelenskyy.
Before any tries to use that as an excuse, let me say this: Ukraine has a different history, different circumstances, resulting in a different "social contract", you cannot apply a foreign country's constitution in your own country. Besides, all of their political parties have already agreed to postpone until after the war.
"It's just a joke! Unless..."
He learned from Netanyahu.
I'm positive that would only apply, if the US was actually invaded and/or occupied by a hostile power. If it's just the US bombing some other country, then why would local politics be affected?
But the US is being invaded by Venezuela...
This regime does the dumbest shit, but doesn't seem to lack imagination to create fictional justification to throw whatever violent tantrums they think will hurt people they don't like.
think will hurt people they don’t like.
those darn libruls
We've had one Afghan invasion, yes. But what about second Afghan invasion?
I'm sure he wouldn't mind getting back at NYC too
They probably don't know about second Afghan invasion.
That’s ok let’s get prepared to stop him 🛑 ✋🏾
Oh just dictator things.
20 bucks on Venezuela, 10 on Mexico and another 10 on Panama
What happened to Greenland and Canada?
Did he release the Epstein files yet?
We're way past that. He's doing full on fascist takeover
This man acting like he’s going to see another election
Moat people around the world were shocked that he got wlected in the forst place. Then even more when they did it again. No one is gonna ve shovked when he stays president
I don't think you understand what I meant
Was this more of a dig at Zelensky then anything?
I hope that’s all it was but with this maniac I doubt it
Wasnt this an onion article yesterday?
Do it. Let’s pop this shit off already.
It worked well for Nathanyahu
Ah, so that whole severed head thing doesn't count, since it was a 'joke' by the same logic.
Americans are a bunch of pussies, Trump knows that. The land of the brave have become the land of the meek and coward.
Stop talking about civil war, just do it or shut up. Americans are pathetic...
They never will. They have a ton of excuses “I have to work, take care of kids, parents” blah blah blah “I can only demonstrate on the weekend”…. Pathetic clown country.
The entire EU is going to mega web surveillance mode "to protect children" and not doing shit about it. We are all a bunch of bitches that take what these parasites give us. Sit the fuck down.
What the fuck are you talking about ? The registration thing about the pornographic site ? Are you kidding me? You are comparing this with Trump licking Putin butt and crushing most of its citizen into slavery and submission ?
In Europe everything gets blocked and capitals get flooded with protestor for less than 0,01% of what Trump is doing.
Wake up, americans are fat, lazy and castrated sheeps spending their times arguing about wokeness or any other nonsense. Nothing compared to Europe.
That's ok, let's get the police prepared to arrest him 👮
Person 1: I had to steal, my mother is sick! Person 2: Wow maybe I should go stealing things next time my mom is sick too!
Person 1: “I had to speed because I was late to my meeting.” Person 2: “Great, so it’s okay for everyone to break the law whenever they’re running late?”
Person 1: “We postponed our elections because we are at war and under martial law” Person 2: “Cool, I hope my country is at war next election season!”
This kind of retort is called a reductio ad absurdum, and I think you people are missing it because you have such a strong confirmation bias against Trump. The sarcasm is extremely clear. He's pointing out the absurdity behind Zelensky using martial law to postpone elections by using himself as an example, knowing that that would be a problem and that people would see it that way.
The Ukrainian constitution doesn't allow for wartime elections. What are you on about? It's not like Zelenskyy is denying rightful elections like Trump is talking about...
The USA does not have any occupied territories.
Should Ukraine disenfranchise those areas or leave them open to election tampering from Russia?
It's different, and trying to reduce one to the other is the absurd thing.
Are you suggesting that trump is clever and/or witty enough to come up with that on the spot? I find it hard to believe trump would be that clever. And if he was, he would have immediately followed it up with some comment about the "radical democrat [sic] deep state" out to get him.
This isn't a joke it's testing the waters.
This is always how he starts things.
yeah love how they always call it jokes. The only jokes trump involves himself with is himself and the people he brings into his circle.
He's not testing the waters.
He's normalizing the illegal discourse.
And if he does that. Expect people to do some nasty business in response to his dictatorship.
I really don't have hope in Americans to do so. I hope I'm wrong.
Trump doesn't joke